Sorry to have to do this again.  Avi Ben Mordecai is teaching against the Word of YHWH!  If you want to bring curses upon yourself and your family and your marriage then listen to Avi Ben Mordechai teach "his version" of Torah.  Bro Marty Herz wrote a detailed, informative paper about this matter I will comment below:

THE “INCONVENIENT” TRUTH:

     Shalom fellow talmidim (students/disciples) of our Master YESHUA Ha’Maschiach.

     My name is Marty Herz: a Jewish believer in Mashiyach YESHUA.  I am a man of no importance, fame, or notoriety. I have no ministry, nor do I aspire to have one!  My wife Karen and I have a very simple but important aspiration in life: to walk in the manner and footsteps of our Messiah YESHUA, and, perhaps, if YHWH so blesses us, to lead others to walk on this same path.

    There is an old saying that says something to the effect that: evil flourishes when good men do nothing. I don’t want anyone to misconstrue that I think myself “good”, but rather that in the face of evil, men must do something about it.

TO THE POINT:

     On Shabbat 07/11/2009, my wife and I joined the webinar of one Avinoam Ben Mordecai to hear the continuing teaching from Hosea that he was conducting.  To our shock and horror we heard this renowned Torah teacher espouse the following viewpoint:  (Note: All quotes from Avi will be in red letters)

“So a man who leaves his wife, not leaves, but a man who is still married but wants to have a mistress: according to the Torah, there is no sin in this. Where the sin is, and you have to hear this very carefully, where the sin is if the man made a vow to his wife….

(What follows here is an admonishment to people writing in comments to stop doing this as it was too distracting. We pick back up here with the continuation of this fine (?) teaching)

If a man made a vow to his wife either in front of a pastor or priest, a justice of the peace, A rabbi, I don’t care, whoever, it just doesn’t matter to me, okay, because you are ultimately making vows in front of YHWH, ultimately. If you made a vow that says something to the effect of, with your heart or with your words, something to the effect of I am only going to be for you and you alone so help me by the ALMIGHTY, you are the only woman I will ever be with or something like that, blah, blah, blah, okay and then he goes and takes another woman while he’s married, the sin is that he made a vow and he broke the words that came out of his mouth ..that’s the sin, okay, because he promised in a vow before the all Eternal ONE whether he knows it or not, he did, that is the sin. It’s not the sin that he took another woman, it’s that he made a vow of front of you. Now, let me just take me and Dina for example and maybe some of you also that your vows were very similar. When I got married to Dina under the chupah, in front of a rabbi, my vow was that I take you according to the law of Moshe and all Yisrael, that’s what I said.

I did not say anything about I’m only gonna be here for you until death do us part, blah, blah, blah. I never said any of that. All I said was I take you to be my wife, in front of witnesses under the chupah in front of everyone: I take you to be my wife according to the Torah, the laws of Moses  and the Torah and all of bnai Yisrael. That is what I said and with that I gave her a ring and we were married, okay, at that point, and that became my vow was the Torah. Now the same thing goes for any of you if you said something along those lines, okay, then the Torah becomes your focal point if your right or wrong About what you’re doing or not doing. I’m sure you all understand this, okay and so the Torah would also specify that if a woman is to leave her husband and for another man..that is sin. That is outright rebellion. According to the Torah, it is a one-way situation, and ladies, I don’t want you to upset with me, I didn’t write the Torah, okay.

It’s not me you should be angry with. If you’re really, really miffed about things, get on your face before the Almighty..Dina (unintelligible), if you are miffed about some of this stuff, and really jaded over the fact that YEHOVAH would allow a man to go have another woman in the home, but he wont allow you to have another man, you have to take it up with HIM, you really do. Don’t be angry with me because you see this is really

I, I, I, I’m looking at the Torah and I’m trying to understand what it’s saying.”

     At this point, dear reader, let us take a badly needed break to go grab some ice tea, go to the rest room, or whatever you need to do. I do need to apologize for subjecting you to this long diatribe; complete with run on sentences, etc, but I needed to present VERBATIM what this teaching contained so that no one could accuse me of presenting any of Avi’s words out of context.

Mat 12:35  The good man out of the good treasure of the heart doth put forth the good things, and the evil man out of the evil treasure doth put forth evil things.

Mat 12:36  `And I say to you, that every idle word that men may speak, they shall give for it a reckoning in a day of judgment;

Mat 12:37  for from thy words thou shalt be declared righteous, and from thy words thou shalt be declared unrighteous.'  (Young’s literal translation)

Personal commentary: When I stood under the chupah and said my vows to my wife before YHWH, I took a slightly different approach than Avi’s.  I opted to go with the traditional Hebraic custom of saying to my wife: Charai at mkudeshet li.  Henceforth you are set apart and sanctified unto me.  She reciprocated with the same vow back to me. Through this set of vows, we pledged ourselves eternally to each other exclusively. It is sad that Avi chose to do otherwise.

Let us return to Avi’s teaching...

“ Where is the, okay, first of all, uhm, where is the biblical basis of being allowed to having a mistress.  It is in the uhm, it is in the Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.  There are a number of places with that, a number of them. Uh, I don’t have all the references here.  Uh, we could do a study on that and I could show you in the context that that is possible, okay, uh, however at this point in time I am not prepared to bring those passages to you because I would have to go find them but they are some concrete verses, uhm.   It is I am not sure you are gonna  actually find, let me put it this way I am not sure you will actually  find concrete verses but I think you will  find it by what is not being said, perhaps. Uh,  but, let’s talk about these things. Uh, Perhaps there are some answers though that we can do.  I am bringing this up, I am bringing this up uh  Yerusha because  there are a number of woman who do, in fact have these kind of issues going on in their marriages and uh I’m trying to help them understand that uh they have to go back and look and see what the vow was because the marriage vow is what is what is holding everything together and defining whether it is a sin or not a sin.”

     It is very important that you were able to see an exact transcript (warts and all), of this insidious teaching in order to more accurately decipher the e-mail exchanges between my wife and Avi and his wife Dina.

     Between the transcript above and the e-mails below, I hope that you, the kahal (body) Of Messiah will be able to judge for yourselves if this teaching would cause anyone to stumble or if any of the allegations brought against us are meritorious.

Note: I have taken the publisher’s liberty of highlighting certain key points in the body of the e-mails in green for emphasis and have answered certain allegations.

The E-mails:

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Dina Marcus <dina.marcus.91@gmail.com> wrote:

Dina

Shalom question please

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:31 PM

From:

"Avinoam" <avinoam@m7000.com>

Okay Karen. Thank you for your email. I appreciate your comments, though in my opinion if you think I’m speaking and teaching error, then it is far more advantageous to show me my error by quoting the only source that we have for what is right and what is wrong in life – Hebrew Scripture. So, please do not ignore this email. Since you have taken the time to “rebuke” me, you therefore also have an obligation to show me the error from the written source texts of Genesis to Malachi that prove me to be in error. I cannot repent of something if I don’t know what I’m repenting from. Please show me from the written source texts IN CONTEXT (this is highly important) the passages that can show me my errors. I’ll patiently wait for your email. If you don’t email me with the Hebrew Scripture teachings to correct me PROPERLY and in context, then I will dismiss this email as frivolous and you will be banned from the room, for causing trouble, NOT for rebuking me.

By the way, just so you know, the word “Heresy” is a Catholic term that means a person does not believe in or live by orthodox catholic doctrine. I don’t live by catholic and man-made dogma. I accept only written scripture as an authority for determining what is right and what is wrong in life.

Take care of yourself and try to calm down. Getting so worked up and angry is not good for the mind or soul. Try to stay in shalom and in truth.

All good from Jerusalem, the City of the Great King

 Avinoam

Personal comment:  Hmmm. Genesis to Malachi? What happened to the “New Writings”?

….And you will be banned from the room for causing “trouble. How can a person cause trouble in a private, direct e-mail, especially when we were asked to write if we were offended or took issue with the teaching?

On 7/16/09, Karen Herz  wrote:

While "looking" for those scriptures...am I correct in assuming then that you and /or Avi

or both feel that polygamy is NOT adultery then?? (as long as all of the "other wives" aren't or weren't married to someone else, of course)

     Secondly, and more importantly...I believe I wrote concerning Avi's statement re: having a mistress (as allowable according to Torah) and never even mentioning anything whatsoever re: polygamy!!

      While waiting for Avi's promised teaching to come on this subject, could you please do me a favor? Avi mentioned in answer to a sister's question of where in the Tanach it states that having a mistress isn't a sin. Would you please reply with just a few scriptures where this is stated as allowed; not by inference but by direct statement in the Tanach?

    Thank you for clearing this up.
 

Re: Shalom question please

Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:55 AM

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Hi Karen,

Adultery is very specifically defined in the Torah as a MAN who takes ANOTHER MAN's wife.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with a married man having another woman.  I also have the Scripture to back it up.

Leviticus 20:10 'If there is a man who commits adultery with another man's wife, one who commits adultery with his friend's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found lying with a married woman, then both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.

23 "If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her,

24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor's wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.

25 "But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die.

26 "But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case.

27 "When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her.

Contrast this with the verses concerning men taking another wife:

Leviticus18:18 'You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness.

In other words, a man cannot marry two sisters while both are alive.  Yaakov did this but he was tricked into it.  Since specifically prohibits a man from marrying two sisters, the clear implication is that a man can marry two women who are not sisters.

Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved,

16 then it shall be in the day he wills what he has to his sons, he cannot make the son of the loved the firstborn before the son of the unloved, who is the firstborn.

17 "But he shall acknowledge the firstborn, the son of the unloved, by giving him a double portion of all that he has, for he is the beginning of his strength; to him belongs the right of the firstborn.

Here, the Torah is even more explicit that a man may have two wives, but he must not favor the son of his beloved wife more than the son of the unloved wife, if that son is really the firstborn.  If having two wives were adultery, then the Torah would call for the man and his second wife to be put to death, as it does for a man who takes another man's wife.

Exodus 21:10 "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.

11 "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

Here, the Torah says that if a man takes another woman into his life, he must not neglect his first wife's food, clothing and conjugal rights.  Clearly, since the Torah makes provision for these things, it permits a man to have two wives so long as he does not neglect one of them.  So, once again, if the Torah viewed this as adultery it would say that both the man and his second wife must be put to death, leaving the first wife without a husband OR the three things it requires of a husband.

One of the most important commandments in Scripture is Deuteronomy 4:2, which says “You shall not add anything to what I command you or take anything away from it, but keep the commandments of YHWH your Elohim that I enjoin upon you.”  Therefore, whatever the Scripture calls adultery is adultery and whatever it does not call adultery is not adultery.  We must NOT make up stuff and say that it's from the Torah.  You have "study to show yourself approved" in your email signature.  Do you live by that, or is it just a slogan?

The crazy thing is, woman are the ones hurt THE MOST by the ban on polygamy.  Why is that so?  Because in order to get married, a woman needs a man, but there are never enough men for each woman to have her own husband if each man can have only one wife!  There are almost always more women than men, so if you create a rule that says only one woman to a man, then you automatically force thousands of women out of a chance to get properly married.  These women are then forced to live a life of celibacy (which many cannot bear), or immorality.  Even the wives are not ever completely secure, because our wicked, torahless society requires that a man must abandon and divorce his first wife in order to marry another.  Do you REALLY think this is a better situation than the one that YHWH gave us?

I don't know what your age is, nor your marital status, but I can guarantee as a woman, you are in some way hurt by our wicked society's refusal to follow the Torah in this regard.  If you are a wife, you are never 100% secure.  If your husband wants to marry another woman, he MUST leave you first.  If you have wanted to get married but there is no one to marry, then you have clearly been hurt by it.  And, if you have succumbed to the temptation of having "LTR's" with a series of guys who can never get over their fear of commitment, it is partially because they know they have an almost never ending supply of desperate women who can't get a man any other way, and they'll be happy to get free sex from a woman until she demands to get married or else, and then they'll go on to the next woman.  Believe me, if the vast majority of women who come of age were to get married young and become unavailable, the men would think twice about being afraid to commit.  They would have to get married or else go without sex.

Shalom,

Dina

From: Dina Marcus [mailto: dina.marcus.91@gmail.com ]
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:28 PM
To: Avi ben Mordechai
Subject: Fwd: Shalom question please

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From: Karen Herz
Date: Jul 17, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Shalom question please
To: Dina Marcus <dina.marcus.91@gmail.com>

Re: Shalom question please

Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:45 AM

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To:

"Karen Herz

Koniuchowsky and Altaf have absolutely nothing to do with it.  Frankly, I have not read what either of them have written, so I don't know.  Apparently, they came to the same conclusions as I from Scripture.  After all, THAT IS what the Scripture says.  I quoted from Scripture to back my position.  All you did is to say "this is pure adultery and totally against Torah," and you offered NOTHING WHATSOEVER to back up your position.  Now, if you can find actual PROOF for what you are saying, I'd be happy to hear it.  My mind is not so made up that I won't listen to proper reason WITH SCRIPTURAL BACKING. 

Shalom,

Dina

Personal comment:

This essentially speaks for itself. How can you say that you aren’t familiar with someone’s teachings and then assume that they reached the same conclusions that you did from the Scriptures?

Avinoam; a response and blessing

Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:45 AM

From:

"Avinoam" <avinoam@m7000.com>

Okay Karen.

Your name has been removed from our list. And no, I don’t listen to nor have I any contact with Koniuchowsky or Altaf and their clan. And further, you really do need to calm down. You are way too hyper and out of control; it’s not good for the soul. Really, you’ll be a much better person if you can just relax and speak intelligently and kindly. In any case Karen, even basic law requires that a person who has an issue with another person, the accuser has an obligation to bring forth the evidence of the wrongdoing. I didn’t ask you to do my homework. I asked you to present your case. But obviously, you don’t have a case because if you did, you would present it. So, as I said in my previous email (and your email will be read word for word to our class today – in its context and entirety with my responses), your accusations are considered frivolous and there is no merit in anything that you have said. I am throwing all that you said out of the courtroom on grounds that it is all hearsay and frivolous. Any judge in a court of law in the world would do the same. You have no evidence for the wrongdoing; therefore your accusations are baseless. If you speak of me negatively in the world, know for certain that YHWH will deal with you because I have the written evidence of your communications with me that prove that you are guilty of Torah tale bearing (Leviticus 19). So, if you cause me harm with your mouth Karen, be absolutely certain 1000% that I absolutely will write what I must about you and present my written evidence about what you have accused me of and it will go out via email to well over 2,000 people. If you want to test me on it, go ahead. It’s your life Karen.

Anyway, I’m not angry nor upset. I’m a biblical scholar and intelligent man. I will speak truth always to the best of my ability. Stay out of trouble and may all good come to you in life and in marriage. I wish you well in all things.

Avinoam

Jerusalem

Personal comment: read word for word to our class today. This was the “class” as I understood

It, where the full scriptural teaching on this matter was supposed to be shared. Neither my wife,

Nor myself (who at this time hadn’t had any communication with Avi,) as well as another couple that we fellowship with were privy to this teaching as a “special” invitation was sent out that none of us received. I might have benefited greatly from this teaching and through the anointing on it, perhaps, could have come to understand the true Torah interpretation of this subject as Avi presented it.

      Perhaps it was an oversight, or a coincidence that none of the aforementioned individuals received this “special” invitation. Or, since the couple mentioned previously also wrote to voice their concern, but actually backed up their protests with scripture, the lack of invitations may have been more “intentional”.

. If you want to test me on it, go ahead. It’s your life Karen. I’m sorry, but I construe this as a threat!

. I’m a biblical scholar and intelligent man. This should read: I’m a biblical scholar and an intelligent man

…And Finally:

JUDGMENT CALL

Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:30 AM

From:

"Avinoam" <avinoam@m7000.com>

July 26, 2009

Dear Marty and Karen.

By your own admission you have stated publicly that you believe strongly in being “led by the Ruach” (i.e., “Led by the Spirit”) into all truth, which is actually quite a noble endeavor to pursue. Therefore, with such a lifestyle, one would assume that the Ruach (i.e. “the Spirit”) would never, ever lead you to violate the Torah at Vayiqra 19:16, right? Of course not. And what does Vayiqra 19:16 say in its Hebrew context?

“Lo talach rachil ba’amecha lo ta’amod al dam ra’echa, ani YHWH”

So, what really baffles me beyond belief is that you say you believe in being led by the ruach but instead, you choose an opposite path of destruction of a man. This makes no sense how this can be.

Then, without warning and without following the protocol given in habrit hachadasha, you go on in being “Led by the Spirit Into All Truth” by violating Vayiqra, Yud Tet, Pasuk Shva Esrei (in English, 19:17), where we learn this:

“Lo tisnah et achicha bilvavecha hocayach tochiach et amitecha v’lo tisa alav chet.”

So, do tell me how it is that you can violate scripture, which is given by the ruach in truth and still call your actions, “being led by the ruach in truth”? What kind of people are you? Babylonian Hebrew Roots Charismatic Christians that are sucking on the breasts of Roman Byzantine church dogma for your spiritual nourishment and calling it, “being led by the spirit into all truth”?

In any case, if you publicly say that you wish to follow the leading of the Ruach of Truth, into the truth, as scripture defines it, then I would expect that you would follow a proper protocol and sequence that elevates the ruach and truth in the following order:  

Nehemia 9:13

Mizmor 119:142

Y’echezki’el 36:27

Yochanan 16:13

But instead, you do the exact opposite and mind you, in a public forum without proper spirit-led protocol.

You see, according to the multiple witnesses that I have, you publicly instigated a discussion about me, seeking to get as many people as possible to pass judgment against me (without benefit of hearing the full context and the Scriptural case that I built last week July 18, 2009) and against the stated truth of the Ruach of Truth in Vayiqra 19:16. In short, I was not given the opportunity to be present in the courtroom of the judgments being leveled against me, in order to defend myself (though some far more righteous people than yourselves tried to shut you up but you didn’t take it to heart). You are guilty of what is called in Hebrew, “Lashon hara.” You didn’t follow a biblical protocol of first trying in a most diligent fashion to work out your issues with me privately one to one using scripture to defend the rebuke, nor did you come to me and follow up with credible witnesses who had heard my teachings and seen my written replies on the matter in question and in truth as your witnesses, also bring a case of rebuke against me. You did neither. Instead, you bypassed biblical protocol and took this matter directly to the Kehilah of the PalTalk community in Eddie Chumney’s group and began spewing the evil tongue in a judicial context that was not according to biblical protocol, and yet you staunchly defend your actions as, “being led by the spirit into all truth.”

Marty and Karen (particularly Karen) you first approached me a couple of weeks ago (July 2009) with venom in your emails, that upon opening them and reading them, they were to inject into my veins a judgment of dripping sarcasms and evil intentions, and a slew of manmade opinions and church dogma but you did nothing to offer scriptural backing for anything you said. I tried hard to calm you down and help you to deal with things in truth. I asked you to provide for me a scriptural basis for the rebuke as my beloved wife Dina had already presented to you — a case showing our understanding of scripture. However, you refused to present your case and instead turned the tables on me saying to me, “I will not do your homework for you.” What kind of nonsense is this, essentially saying that the burden of proving the rebuke was on me? However, I wasn’t the one bringing the rebuke so why would I be the one required to bring a case to refute the rebuke when Dina had already given you a well thought out scriptural case to prove the issue in question? You refused to build your case and you were doing the rebuking! This makes no legal or religious sense to me. Even in a secular court of law, the onus in a lawsuit is on the plaintiff to present the wrongdoing that led to the lawsuit. It’s then the duty of the defendant to defend their position with a case, either using a lawyer or by acting as one’s own lawyer. This is the basis of secular law. How much more so in religious law and using biblical protocol first before you ever take an issue to the public level!  

Your actions taken against me on July 25, 2009 in a public forum constitute an obtuse path and you offered NO proof whatsoever from Scripture to bolster your rebuke. You only offered opinions and I called you on it in my email yet you deemed my response to be of no consequence, yet you called your path, “being led by the Ruach.”

So, I say to you that you both have now brought a divine judgment upon yourselves, which I would hate to see considering that the Torah requires blood for blood, life for life in fair measure (Shemot 21). Perhaps you may wish to reconsider all that you have done BEFORE I take this issue to task with the Kehilah (and I suppose if that’s what has to happen, then so be it). However, before I do this, I am first prepared to follow biblical protocol by bringing forth my witnesses with all the available written evidence. I have your email correspondences to my wife and to me AND now I have your instigations and postings from the Paltalk room of Eddie Chumney on Shabbat, July 25, 2009. You have the following charges to deal with:

1)       A violation of the proper protocol of judgment according to the Torah of Moshe and the Torah of Yeshua

2)       Instigating and promoting a series of lies about me in the ears and minds of people who knew nothing of the teachings as hearing them from me by which you are guilty of taking my words and teachings into a public forum and twisting them out of context to the hurt of the people who were not party to the teachings and thus giving a one-sided view of things without allowing myself the opportunity for defense according to the case that I built from the Torah of Moshe and the Torah of Yeshua.

3)       A misrepresentation of my good character by acting as false witnesses in a public courtroom, by lying and then spilling the blood of my good character; you were given an opportunity to bring forth your case in the rebuke by quoting FROM SCRIPTURE where I was in error, but chose instead to twist the opportunity that could bring repentance into an opportunity to spill the blood of my good name publicly.

4)       A false witness against yourselves by saying that you follow the Ruach of Truth but then you desecrate the Name of the Ruach of Truth by lying against the Ruach of Truth and refusing to listen to the Word of YHWH.

My witnesses have been presented with this email as BCC. Let the judgments begin.

Take care and as always, Yehowah Hu Dayan Emet.

Avinoam

Jerusalem

The City of the Great King YHWH

Personal comment:

      After repeatedly asking the “Torah teacher” to prove with clear scriptural proof, as was asserted, that it is not a sin to have a mistress and that, as quoted verbatim above, these scriptures would be forthcoming, as of the time of this writing (07/26/2009) we still await this scriptural proof. The proof re: “a mistress” was requested, but all we got was smokescreen, obfuscation, and twisting that tried to evade the issue at hand.

     A call to repentance was suggested! This was ignored and our concerns were shluffed off as being frivolous and without merit. After a sufficient period of time had transpired

With no repentance and an obvious tone from the e-mails indicating that none would be forthcoming, I indeed did decide to let the kehilah decide this matter. My motivation was NOT to defame Avi but rather to desperately try to coerce him to prove his “mistress” assertion from the Torah. I also was concerned for the stumbling block that his teaching could be placing in front of young (in Torah), impressionable men that may be looking to “expand” the female population in their households and looking for a “license” to do so.

     These “concerns” were brought to crystal clarity when a question came in from a brother asking if he should then “renew his vows” in an effort, I suppose (YHWH forbid)

To create this “mistress loophole” that Avi spoke of when sharing the “model” of his own vows.

with venom. dripping sarcasms. Please show me examples of these. Was it anything like this?:

What kind of people are you? Babylonian Hebrew Roots Charismatic Christians that are sucking on the breasts of Roman Byzantine church dogma for your spiritual nourishment and calling it, “being led by the spirit into all truth”?

Scriptural case that I built last week July 18, 2009..Once again, sadly, we were not graced with

An invitation to this event.

though some far more righteous people than yourselves…I am very glad that Avi has elevated himself to the position of YHWH as he can now judge the “righteousness” of others.

So, I say to you that you both have now brought a divine judgment upon yourselves, which I would hate to see considering that the Torah requires blood for blood, life for life in fair measure (Shemot 21).As above, Avi meting out “divine judgement.”

series of lies about me. by lying and then spilling the blood of my good character.

If it is a “lie” to quote your own words from a teaching that I’m sure you were immensely proud of

Then I am indeed guilty.

       In all fairness, at this point, I must publicly apologize for a grievous mis truth that I wrote in the text of the chat room. My wife was “banned” from Avi’s room only after she requested to be

Removed. For this factual faux pas, I am truly sorry and ask you Avi to please forgive me.

My witnesses have been presented with this email as BCC. Forgetting the right to face my accusers is okay by us if that is how you prefer to do it. Conversely, I am including the names of my witnesses who heard the teaching first hand, saw both sides of all the e-mails, and can attest to the accuracy of the transcripts included above.

Steven La Tourette

Mary Lou La Tourette

Bonnie Virga

We continue to pray for you Avi and Dina and hope that you take seriously the awesome responsibility that YHWH has placed upon you to correctly divide HIS words of truth to the body.

In YESHUAH ha’ Maschiach,

Marty Herz

END OF ARTICLE BY BRO MARTY HERZ NOW A PERSONAL NOTE FROM Yours Truly:

Here's what I can tell you.  I met Avi Ben Mordecai in the Spring of 1997 who then introduced me to James Trimm (who I soon discovered to be a thief and liar; Trimm should be doing jail time for fraud).  At the time Avi was all excited about James Trimm's profound teaching skills (Trimm brought Avi back into believing that Y'shua has a divine component, Avi had a spirit of doubt and confusion about Mashiyach and he was thinking along the lines of his brother Uri Marcus who holds Eviyonite - Poor One - thinking).  Avi Ben Mordechai isn't quite as irresponsible as Michael Rood when it comes to not doing his own primary Torah studies, these fellas find others to tag along with their "ministries" but who put out false anti-Mashiyach ideas into the Household of Faith.  For example Michael Rood brought Nehemiah Gordon on tours with him to have a "legitimate Hebrew" on board (or something like that), but Nehemiah Gordon is anti-Y'shua Mashiyach and has been teaching falsehoods about Aramaic and Hebrew NT primacy along with dozens of other untruths because of his own flavour of Karaite religious tradition.

Then, Avi Ben Mordecai introduced me to Joseph ben Haggai who claimed to have a bunch of Ph.D's, Avi was all excited that Joseph was going to be the big-dog on an international Beit Din, yada yada...  I found Mr. Haggai (big-dog Sephardi Chacham) to be a power-mongering, low-life, Ebionite scumbag who teaches that Jews don't need Y'shua, but he can hardly spell his own name.  Mr. Haggai then cursed me out of his Yeshiva (what a joke) for asking basic questions that exposed his limited scholarship (he's a Pharisee with Ebionite attitude) proving he was both unqualified and misrepresenting the Netzari faith, though he has a number of souls (mostly Goy) who are convinced his shtuyot is beneficial.

Then Avi Ben Mordecai divorced his wife and chewed the heads off "the brethren" who inquired as to why he divorced his wife.  All Avi Ben Mordecai said was that she wasn't Jewish and the rest wasn't any of our business.  That's how low-life scumbags treat their wives, this is NOT how YHWH's servants act.  How sad of Mr. Avinoam Marcus (er) Mordecai... but it's clear "the Marcus brothers" like to use their Jewish shtick to get money from non-Jewish audiences although neither are qualified by Torah to be in leadership.  And as you will see below in Avinoam Marcus's reply to this webpage, his first concern is money, money, money.

Then Avi's brother, Uri Marcus (of The Nehemiah Trustees Covenant Fund) and I had a meeting in his home in Israel, where Uri Marcus went on a nasty gossip campaign against his brother Avi Ben Mordecai (the other Marcus brother) and scandalized a bunch of leaders in Jerusalem and around the world.  I tried to stop the gossiping demonized Uri Marcus, but Uri turned (of course), and he turned his brother Avi Ben Mortified as well.  What to do... Avi Ben Mordecai didn't have the spiritual resources or integrity to stand up against the full blown gossiping demon of his brother Uri.  Avi Ben Mordechai is a rather skilled politician who flows and bends ears to his teachings, big smiles, jokes and moychendizing... the problem that I have with guys like this is that they build their own fiefdoms, accountable to no one and they become heavy handed when "found out".

Those with the gossiping spirits, like Uri Marcus, make friendship with others who enjoy the same "familiar spirits" and their "inner circle" makes gossip both acceptable and a mandatory custom.  Both Avi Ben Mordecai and Uri Marcus were church folk who've really never left church politics and hierarchy, they simply painted Hebrew terms on the same old religious hierarchical demons.  Y'shua taught and demonstrated a nephesh b'nephesh (soul to soul) service to one another, but many in the Israelitish movement seek out hirelings to support their ministries who are neither well studied and well versed in Judaism or Torah.  There are plenty folks need help with their demons but are far too proud to acknowledge it, only those who've been set free can help those who haven't.  To live in the religious worlds of our own making is to do what's right in our own eyes, but then we aren't able to lead others in repentance and deliverance, it's a very sad commentary when the leaders are in desperate need of deliverance but so proud they reject it.

Nehemiah Gordon (Karaite) is part of Avi Ben Mordecai's "religious clan".  Mr. Nehemiah Gordon (ex-Pharisee) recruits Karaites out of the Messianic Movement into Karaitism through the help of people like Avi Ben Mordecai and his brother Uri Marcus, and Michael Rood and others who don't have the good sense to know an anti-Messiah spirit when they visit one. 

Nehemiah Gordon now has a following of Karaite converts he brought out of the Household of Faith, thanks to the religious spirits of men who introduced him into the Israelitish community.  Nehemiah Gordon is ignorant and rebellious of the Netzari / Messianic Faith.  He wouldn't have learned too much from guys like Avi Ben Mordecai, Uri Marcus, Michael Rood etc because these ex-Church folk haven't left the religious ideals of their hierarchical dominated past, they make a lot of religious foofoo and sell their books, but do the same things the Babylonian churches taught them when it comes to leadership.  They've exchanged one religious ideal for another, the key is "religious ideal" rather than righteous (kedoshim) community.

Bottom line is this, when leaders like Avi Ben Mordecai and Moshe Con-jew-cow-ski (Lunacy and multiple wife false teacher) and others want to play big dog on the porch, "one man show" teacher types, and are arrogant and puffed up against the rest of the body.  Then it's just a matter of time when YHWH brings them down by giving them up to a lying and deceiving spirit.  That's what happened to Avi Ben Mordecai and "friends."

Don't be sad that there isn't any "good fellowship" in your area, if you're attending meetings held by false teachers you will not find honest and sincere brethren who want to fellowship with you.  If you don't resist evil within the 2House (slash) "Israelite" (slash) Messianic Movement with false leaders and teachers, you'll likely go down with them.  Not only that, you will have contributed towards making the Torah based Faith in Yeshua out to be a laughing stock among honest and sincere Christians and Jews who believe in decency, honesty, transparency and accountability... all the things demons don't like.

This isn't a game folks.

If you want true fellowship you must become that fellowship in YHWH and His Mashiyach, there are plenty who don't attend the meetings when "talking heads" show up in town, because they have better things to do for the Kingdom. 

Be warned. 

Deceiving religious anti-Torah spirits have been unleashed through Avi Ben Mordecai's "teaching ministry", until he and others like him experience deliverance they are bringing curses into the Body of Mashiyach.

Sorry I couldn't bring a better report, yesh b'yesh (it is what it is).

YHWH be with you,

Baruch Ben Daniel

PS May YHWH protect His children from haSatan's hirelings...

Please forward this page as the Ruach leads you, Avi Ben Mordecai is trouble.  YHWH says He sends false prophets and teachers in among His own people (D'varim 13), so we will test and prove them.  Let's get the job done.  If men refuse to humble themselves and seek help for their demons you have no right to listen and attend meetings with them unless you want to pick up some "friends" for yourself.

PS Avi Ben Mordechai is propping up other false teaching spirits, when leaders are so afraid of losing popularity that they can't speak against evil they are inadvertently joining with it.

AVI BEN MORDECHAI'S REPLY TO THIS WEBPAGE JUNE 16, 2006:

As you can see Avi Ben Mordechai isn't interested in being accountable to anyone, he doesn't reply about his egregious teachings, the nasty way he divorced his first wife, or how he treated Marty and Karen, or his gossip mongering with his brother Uri Marcus, he would rather play games.  Very sad and disappointing how the flesh gets pumped up, here's my reply:

Email response July 24th, 2010         Marvin <wmm77@cableone.net>       Email response July 24th, 2010  

From: Marvin <wmm77@cableone.net>

Subject: Sir ur a hateful spiteful soul

And still have not back up your position with scripture concerning your dispute with avi. Would    Not u be more comfortable in the Christian community where u aren't required to know what your talking about?  U don't seem interested in the truth but only to be right in your preconceived notions. U r greatly needed in the Christian community.  Here's a suggestion. And it's pretty basic. Don't fool yourself into thinking ur led by the ruach when ur in violation of Torah by not following scriptural protocol when u have a dispute with a brother.  Since ur A pillar of virtue have u considered catholicism?  Perhaps sainthood  awaits you!

Dear Marvin, you want Scripture, here's "my position with Scripture", please check this with your own Bible:

"You shall not commit adultery."

Shemot (Exodus) 20:14. 

Adultery (Hebrew na'aph) means to break wedlock against your partner, a person who is married but has sexual intercourse with another person other than their marriage partner is an adulterer.  Avi Ben Mordechai is advocating adultery by teaching that Torah permits sex with a mistress.  Mr. Mordechai is a liar and he is teaching a doctrine of demons, but let's look at more Scripture. 

Whenever you see mistress (gheberet) in your KJV Bible like Gen. 16:4, 8, 9; 1 Kings 5:3; Psalm 123:2; Prov 30:23; Isaiah 24:2 you will notice a mistress is "a lady" who attends to a woman.  However, Mr. Avi Ben Mordechai is teaching that a lady mistress can attend the sexual needs of a married man, on the authority of Torah, as long as he get's his wife's approval before marriage.  That's a wicked thing that Avinoam ben Mordechai is teaching.

This is polygamist thinking, there are men who take multiple wives by offering women their basic material necessities in exchange for becoming one of their wives.  You see Marvin, a righteous man (tsaddiq) would seek to help a woman find a suitable husband rather than exploit her for his own selfish agendas.  In male dominated religious worlds men wield authority over woman by religious and monetary social status, but in Torah, women are given equality and protection.  Sarah's maid Hagar decided to flee from Sarah, in some cultures that could have brought a death sentence to Hagar.

What Avinoam ben Mordechai is teaching is wickedness simply because there are some woman who would marry a man simply to have protection and be provided for, even if she didn't receive the things that most men and woman want, things like being cherished, being loved unconditionally, being accepted for their person (created in the Image of Elohim) and be in a marriage of honor, trust, intimacy and fidelity.  Most people don't like being treated as a commodity Marvin.

Yes there are woman who might agree to share their marriage beds with another woman if a man demanded it.  But a high net worth woman of intelligence and substance wouldn't likely compromise intimacy between herself and her husband and then watch her children see their father with another woman.

Before your defend Avinoam ben Mordechai, and speak evil of me, would you theoretically wear condoms while having sex with a mistress then Marvin?  Why are you being so ignorant with me?  What happens if a man gets his mistress pregnant?  Would a tsaddiq (righteous man) ever put himself and a woman in that situation?  NO they wouldn't Marvin!  It's unthinkable and it's wicked to teach that Torah says it's ok to have sex with a mistress or any woman other than your own wife.

"And the man that commits adultery with another man's wife,

even he that commits adultery with his neighbour's wife,

the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." 

Vayikra 20:10

A man who has sex with another woman other than his wife is committing adultery, according to Proverbs 6:32-33 he is destroying his own soul.  A wound and dishonour shall he get and his reproach shall not be wiped away.

You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her

has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Matthew 5:27-28.

But I say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife,

saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery:

and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery.

Matthew 5:32

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled:

but whoremongers and adulterers Elohim will judge.

Hebrews 13:4

You adulterers and adulteresses,

know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with Elohim?

Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of Elohim.

Do you think that the scripture says in vain,

The spirit that dwells in us lusts to envy?

Ya'akov (James) 4:4, 5.

PS Marvin, unlike you and your buddy Brad Marcus (aka Avinoam ben Mordechai), I wasn't raised in either Catholicism or one of it's daughters, so watch your mouth because you obviously don't know what's coming out of it these days.

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